Public opinion on Turkey's mediation role in the Ukraine war is largely skeptical, with significant distrust towards Erdogan's motives and concerns about the effectiveness of diplomatic efforts. While there is a desire for resolution, many express frustration over geopolitical complexities and the involvement of authoritarian leaders, reflecting a broader sympathy for the civilians affected by the conflict.

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[https://www.turkiyetoday.com/world/russian-strike-hits-turkish-drone-maker-baykars-factory-in-kyiv-3206097](https://www.turkiyetoday.com/world/russian-strike-hits-turkish-drone-maker-baykars-factory-in-kyiv-3206097)

**T**wo Russian missiles struck the Turkish drone maker Baykar's drone factory in Kyiv early Thursday, causing severe damage to production facilities in the fourth attack on the plant in six months, according to a Ukrainian city council member.

CecilPeynir

Are you meaning to tell me Russian missiles actually can hit their intended target, which means every single time they hit civilian centres it is purely a terror attack and a warcrime ?

Constant-Ad-7189

I have been expecting exactly this; indirect retaliation...

Türkiye, Azerbaijan and Armenia managed to finalize strategic Zanzegur transit corridor deal that connects TR and AZ through AR under the mediation of the US. They gave the control of the route to the US. 

It was a heavy blow to Russia because first TR and AZ has ended long-standing Russian dominance in the region and second they brought the US to the Russia's backdoor with this deal. 

Since Russia has bogged down in the Ukraine, they had no option to accept this.

Last week or so, Russia directly bombed Azerbaijani energy infrastructure in Ukraine and now Turkish Baykar' drone factory.

highmickey

PeanutFragrant9685

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This is why underground facilities are not a choice but a must

Tong-Tong-Tong_Sahur

LCW, Koton, Dogtas, Colins.... İt's time to stop operations in Russia

Cnk31d

Ukraine could have built this 1km in Poland or Romania and it would have been safe. Sometimes I'm surprised Ukraine decision making.
Seriously what do you expect Russians to do?

Stardustone1

Good. Those same drones were used to bomb innocent armenians and probably Greeks in the future

OrthodoxSchizoid

&gt;I know a lot of Muslims support Russia against Ukraine in this conflict because they believe whatever is Anti-Western is good but honestly I hope Russia gets decimated in this war as it would be in our long-term best interests.

most muslims IRL dont really give a shit, and among those who care it's rather ambivalent.

social media is astroturfed as hell and propagandized with bots

Ironclad_watcher

Me personally, i empathize with the Ukrainian side since their country was attacked basically unprovoked.

However, i hate how people have selective sympathy; for example, when Russia bombs a hospital, there are condemnations and even more sanctions placed on it, however when a certain White and Blue country not only bombs a hospital, but executes medical staff and burry their ambulance? Crickets.

starbucks_red_cup

immortal_Leena1

Not much of a Muslim, but most people I know are very apathetic.

I'm personally supportive of Ukraine, but the behaviour of its online supporters have convinced me to not announce it often so that I'm not associated with them.

Vegetable-College-17

More on Ukraine side. Im not pro-Ukraine but they were invaded and are fighting a defensive war. 

And im just anti-Russia across the board.

_SYRIAN_

These Muslims who support Russia, do not know that Russia are the aggressors, because it’s Russia during the days of empire have conquered Crimea and Soviets have lost it. 

I stand with Ukraine as a Muslim, because Russia were the aggressors and thieves.

Anyone who stands with Russia, must have skipped history classes.

SnooWoofers7603

I'm not a fan of Zio-Zelensky or Ukraine's Nazi-pandering government in general, but Russia is clearly the aggressor and in the wrong for invading and attempting to conquer a much smaller and weaker neighbor which was not previously a threat to them.

Russia, America, and Israel are all warmongering imperialist bullies which clearly view human life as cheap and expendable, especially evident when it comes to their common history of slaughtering civilians in numerous recent wars across the Muslim world.

Public-Word-917

I don’t support either country really. I just want the war to end because Ukrainians are losing their men and America is using Ukraine as a brutal proxy battleground to drain Russia’s resources.

Ukraine was invaded - in contravention to international law. I would like Russia to pull back and Ukraine to reclaim its sovereignty. I also would like America to stop moving its military base closer and closer to Russia and respect Russia’s sovereignty

Dyphault

Just like westerns don’t give a fuck to ward in MENA , the Muslims don’t give a shit about Ukraine, but there might more support since ,unlike mena wars, Ukraine- Russia war is all over the media and nobody blocks it

boombastico_3

I dont like Russia but not just because of the Ukraine war its specifically about what they have done to Muslims historically.

Frankly I think the Russia v Ukraine war was forced to occur and could have easily been prevented. The US and Western Europe is using Ukraine and the Ukrainian people to fight a bs war that should never have even occurred, I feel sympathetic towards Ukrainians. It all really stems from the fact they (West) kept edging Russia that Ukraine was going to join Nato. 

Even if you look at the stuff now, all their (West) deals almost incentivize Russia to keep going. They keep pushing for either Ukraine to join NATO or for them to have something similar to Article 5, well Russias entire goal is to prevent that so why not keep stealing more land to get Ukraine and the western forces farther from Russias actually land?

Mediocre-Risk3581

I sympathise with Ukrainians as I met many refugees and they are cool people. However, I believe the whole war is more complicated than just Russia is being aggressive, this doesn’t justify the war but refusing to understand the other side will always bring more conflict and more suffering.

Temporary-Evening717

Ukraine, since Russia has done more to oppress Muslims in Crimea, the Caucuses, and Central Asia.

LudicrousPlatypus

Ukraine helped the US invade iraq, fuck them

sardouk97

You have the writing skills of a uni grad but geopolitics understanding of a 12 y/o. 

biskitpagla

Key issue is that Putin is pretty much a questionable figure. But Zelensky is also exploiting the good will of the international community to fill his own pockets too and he is discrediting the cause of his own people.

Absolutely_Cool2967

Russia is an aggressor and Ukraine is just defending itself, so I support Ukraine all the way.

amrmoavia

I don't like either of them 

But if Ukraine wasn't pro Israel I can see myself being with them

The problem is they went beyond simply saying words so the us doesn't cut them off,all zelensky has to do is either shut up or throw a half-assed "we condemn civilian deaths and encourage a ceasefire" or whatever, zelensky genuinely supports Israel despite being in a similar situation as Gaza and Israel not sending him anything other than humanitarian aid and refusing to sanction Russia, it doesn't help when he's a Jew so I can't really support them

I don't need to mention why I don't support Russia but I would like to add Putin kissed the wall, another major reason why I hate him

whitevanguy9

Between Russia and Ukraine, I support the war. 😂

niqabiandhubby

&gt; I hope Russia gets decimated in this war as it would be in our long-term best interests.

The war in eastern europe should last as long as possible and also expand. It should waste manpower, resources, and armaments because the more they waste, the more US/NATO power projection capabilities diminsh. The diminishing of their power projection capabilities would significantly undermine their hard power in our region and supporting their sugar baby parasite.


The power structure in the united states along with their european vassals [saw an opportunity window with the collapse of the USSR to revamp the region unchallenged.] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAnNJW9_KYA) The wars after ww2 didn't stop, they just changed continents. The european continent has been successfully vassalized and therefore they started working on vassalizing other regions. American dictatorship in the middle-east is what made a 21st century holocaust possible.

no_2_japan_cartoons

Non of the sides is less bad than the other, Ukraine is not alone in this war, and if Ukraine wins it's the whole west that won.


As I view it, I don't consider Ukraine on it's own.


I don't want any harm to any people, but at the same time I would want that this war never stops and continues like it's so both of the bad sides are busy with eachother.

edit: typo

Fluffy-Citron7519

Ukraine.

Russia is basically trying to do what Israel has done in Palestine: take land by force and control it long enough until everyone else moves on to a different cause.

I believe in the idea of an international legal regime built to discourage invasions and gaining land and resources by force. We don't have one yet, but normalizing Russian or Israeli actions keeps us further from never establishing one.

NittanyOrange

Neither, one is evil and the other is being a western puppet.

DarkGan0n

If you only see Ukraine and Russia involved in this war, you are already being dishonest.

If you think a western domination of the world is in "your long term best interest", good luck and don't cry to the resistance later.

TheThirdDumpling

I used to support Ukraine but no longer care tbh I just wish this war ends asap.

Professional-Tea-621

I support Russia. They were forced into this war by American empire. Ukraine was stupid enough to fall for it. Tariq Ali predicted this war years ago. Russia doesn’t like adding of Warsaw pact states to NATO it will lead to conflict with Putin. So we have this war.

PossibleGazelle519

I don’t make up my mind on tribal or religious trivia dates a millennia ago.

I look at what’s good for me right now.
I recommend you do the same or you’ll be living like you’ll get a medal at the end

ImamTrump

Thoroughly dislike both. In general, I have no affinity with the Slavic peoples. This is an inter-Slavic conflict with no good guys on either side.

Queasy_Debate_6983

Idk. I'd say that I don't know enough about it, so I shouldn't be taken too seriously.


I feel bad for the ukrainian civilians and want the war to stop, so they'll leave in peace again, but, politically, I'm on neither side I think.

Maya_of_the_Nile

naturally ukraine as my fiance is from there

Comfortable_Push1836

As weird as this will sound i support the Ukrainian people: because they are the main victims in this. But as for stance i support the Russian government in this SPECIFIC case.

wyse000

Neither. The war is an ongoing money pit and a product of failed Obama era policy. 

We support peace. We support a negotiated solution.

RealOzSultan

I won't support either of them. Both are anti-islam, but i would say i might go for Russia because it's against the west

thesmall_one96

Neither of them are friends of Muslim 

Both of them hate middle eastern

Overall-Ad-2159

Well only war I support is between leaders playing fifa. Other than that, I don’t support wars. 

Or presidents or prime ministers should just duke it out. Have a fist fight.

vega004

Ukraine. They literally got invaded by Russia. There’s no reason to support Russia. However I don’t like the Ukrainian government.

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IneedtheWbyanymeans

erdogan bir şükür namazı kılar artık putinin kapısında

Traditional-Path-510

Here is a video of Erdogan and Putin having icecream for good measure. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhjKYZJr3B8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhjKYZJr3B8)

Apprehensive-Unit268

Putin might make Erdoğa, apologize again.

Usual-Shower-6991

simcity_player

&gt;fourth attack on the plant in six months

Bu ilk değilmiş zaten. Yazana göre 2025'de hala hizmete girme hedefi varmış ancak nasıl olacak o pek anlamadım.

Güzel çakmışlar. Hırsız itin yalaka damadı isterse uzay mekiği üretsin umrumda değil Rusya 35 askeri bağırta bağırta bombaladı tek kelime edemeden 10 dakika kapıda bekledin şimdi git bir çay daha iç rus çayı iyi gelir.

reddithesabi3

Beklenen bişeydi.aynisı sipariş ettikleri korvete de olacak

OkPublic2736

guzel, baykar ne kadar hasar alirsa o kadar iyi

Big-Following2210

Hırsız şerefsiz hayvanın yalaka pezevenk damadına kim koyarsa koysun umrumda değil. Keşke buradaki tesisleri de yanıp kül olsa. 

ReporterMaterial4141

kim koyarsa koysun
bayrakt*ra koyandan allah razı olsun

No-Job-3494

Amerika’yla masaya oturalım. S400’leri Ukrayna’ya verme karşılığında F35 talep edelim.

No_Technician_4709

Turkey should have no business playing political expansion and imperialism games. This is what you get when you do that. 

Bu aynı tesise dördüncü saldırıları oluyor.

Etliplav

The father in law president crossed Russia.

Silent-Storm2597

oha amk ne kadar orospu evladi varmis bu sub’da… yaziklar olsun

ActualPositive7419

Justiq

Merak etmeyin vergilerimizle bir tane daha yaparlar.

CapitalLine

Interesting-Hair-611

Erdogan probably approved of this. Watch him not even reacting to it. A disgrace for anatolians.

Zealousideal_Cry_460

setnha

Budget-Shopping6712

u/Apprehensive-Unit268 r/europe gibi sublara atacak mısın yoksa ben atayım mı?

hunbaar

EQUALIBRIUM77

Odd-Chocolate-210

Poland? lol why would they want it on their toes anyway.. and that is Poland you are speaking of. You obviously don’t know history well.

derekdurie

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Bro, That's like asking christians if they support russia or ukraine, You can't take the views of 2B Muslims and lumb them into one singular category 

Some are pro-Ukraine and others are pro-Russia, Others support neither

And no idea where you got the idea that there is alot of support for russia, Try asking a Syrian Sunni or a Turk and he would mostly curse russia,   
On the other hand people from Iran or north africa seem to not hate russia that much, There is so much geopolitics to take into consideration here.

hamadzezo79

The question doesn’t make any sense. What does being Muslim have to do with that conflict?!

8_green_potatoes

It's better to stay out of the fitna of others and worry about our own.


Russia has a record of being hostile toward Islam. Ukraine was the first nation to send colonists to Falasteen. Moreover, Ukraine stands with Israel -see letter recently sent by their president to Nazinyahu.


فاخر بكسر بعضه

MyLooseSealLucille

Ukraine 💯 you can catch me always with the side being unjustly occupied.

Calamari1995

I don’t actively support one nation. Obviously I do sympathize with innocent Ukrainians and I do recognize that Russia are absolutely the provocateurs in this conflict, but I also cast a lot of blame on the West. I think they’re hypocrites and had enough intel to know Russia will react strongly if their red lines are crossed. If the West are gonna paint Putin as the second coming of Hitler and this big imperialist, then put your money where your mouth is and place soldiers on the front lines of Ukraine. Let America, Britain, and France etc sacrifice their soldiers.

CHILTONC_MPA

A plague on both their houses, but Zelenskii is not exactly my favorite person given his Zionism

Abooda1981

Muslims are described as Muslims by non-Muslim folks. Muslims, in reality, identify themselves as (Pakistani, Indian, Saudi, Egyptian, Iraqi, irani .......etc). To answer your question, each country have their own views about the war in Ukraine. If you ask any devoted Muslims or any human he will not support any side because wars are bad

Alii_baba

The Muslim follow the righteous, you just have to understand and simply look who started it and who and why is getting killed without defensive force

AlgeriaSlayedFrance

I am not taking sides. I sympathize with the Ukrainians as Kuwaiti but given series of events and the ill intentions of NATO i cant side with them.

WeeZoo87

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BouWelou

Tr0jan___

" If it were not for the Brits and the French saving the declining Ottoman Empire from collapse, the Ottoman Empire would have been decimated ... "

"From the Russian-Ottoman wars .."

an Ottoman empathizer? Is this what this about?

Well it's the ottoman's Karma I don't hear you complaining over the Mamluks that ottomans ended to seize the power instead of looking out for Andlus which was collapsing cause they were too busy fighting Muslims.

No thanks, I won't support a western puppet.

obsidianowl7

Basically you came in with your opinion but baited the title. Bad hasbara

tnorc

For me, it is clear that Russia is the aggressor and that the Ukrainian people are victims of this conflict and I sympathize with them, but at the same time I believe that Russia is right in that Ukraine's joining NATO is considered an existential threat to Russia. So it's hard to threaten who I'll sentence to life imprisonment and who I'll oppose.But if there is a party whose science is to blame for what is happening there, it is the United States of America, the greatest devil in the world. The United States manipulated Ukraine and used it as a tool to turn their country into a quagmire to drain Russia into.  What the United States of America experienced in Afghanistan, Russia wants to experience, perhaps in double the severity, to subjugate it.

If you ask me who I want to win the war, this is also complicated for me, on the one hand because we in the Arab world are under the feet of the great powers in general and under the feet of the West in particular. We are actually slaves to them.  Freedom in the Arab world in itself is considered an existential threat to them.

So what I would like to see as an outcome of the war depends on its impact on the Arab world. If it weren't for the Ukrainian war, Russia wouldn't have withdrawn most of its aircraft from Syria, and if this hadn't happened, the air cover Bashar al-Assad relied on at war for at least the last 10 years, wouldn't have been lifted, and therefore his regime would have not fallen. Thus, Iran would still rule a huge Shiite empire in the heart of the Arab world. So although I blame the United States for what is happening in Ukraine, I understand Russian concerns and stand in solidarity with Ukraine as victims of the manipulations of the great powers. But we must be grateful for the fall of Bashar al-Assad and the reasons that helped it.

On the other hand, I know that the United States is striving to either dismantle Russia, overthrow it, or at least distance it from China, to isolate the latter in preparation for its economic and technological siege, in order to dismantle it as well. Just as happened during the Soviet period, there were great fears of Soviet-Chinese rapprochement, and the United States approached communist China and presented them with an offer that could not be refused, as a prelude, of course, to isolating the Soviet Union. And that succeeded in dismantling the Soviet Union. Today, the United States is trying to do the same thing with Russia, but it cannot offer them a tempting offer as it did with China previously.

If the United States of America is able to bring Russia to its knees and thus separate it from China, the result will be absolute control of the Western countries over the world, and this time, especially with artificial intelligence, it may be forever.  The result of this for Islamic countries in particular, and for the Arab world in particular, and even more specifically for the Middle East, will be the worst news that can ever be heard.

Therefore, I hope with all my heart that the conflict in Ukraine will end as soon as possible without Russia being brought to its knees or China being dismantled. Because this is the only path to a multipolar world. Without this path, there is no path other than absolute US control.

FreeBench

I support Ukraine only for one reason and its found in 
2:190:

 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors

Creative-Flatworm297

Ukrainian neonazi gov is hostile to Muslims, what propaganda do you sip on honey?

Russia/China are countries that provide a balance against the USA (THE MOST EVIL EMPIRE) and it's western vassals. Long-term American/western 

Stop being fooled and use your mind to think about what long term means.

Ukraine is a little Nazi Germany wannabe (current and past Germany), both are counties with horrible

ThrawDown

I support both sides to continue fighting, the Ukrainians to push back the communist Russia and recover their stolen land, and i support russia to keep pushing to restore the russian empire, after all Ukraine is russian. And I insist that Europeans help Ukraine with all means necessary even with men's power, if they don't russia will take the entire Europe and make it russian, and the chinese and south korea should help the russians if they don't chinese silk road dream will be vanquished and if Russia loses north korea will be weaker against the western world by loosing a very important ally.

Neveriver

Bro, your analysis is fantasy and not based on fact. Just stay out of it. 


&gt;Ukraine on the other hand is unlikely to ever be an empire, let alone a hostile empire to the Muslims.


First country to send zionists to Falasteen. 




&gt;It’s nothing more than a vassal state to larger liberal Western powers such as the US, UK, France and Germany. 


Exactly why they aren't good for us. It's like supporting the dog of the guy robbing your house, who will bite you with no hesitation. 


So much more I want to respond to, but starting to feel like you're rage-baiting (could be wrong).

I support the civilians who are being killed and are being forcibly displaced because of the aggressor. I hate Ukraine's government because Zelensky is a zionist and I hate Russia's government because Putin is a bloodthirsty criminal and how he bombed Syria. Also, Wagner group's meddling in Africa. Ukraine is the lesser if two evils here, especially considering that it's Ukrainians who are mostly bearing the brunt of the war

Wild-Brain7750

I do not support either Russia or Ukraine, nor do I cheer for one side against the other. My only hope is that, if the victory of one side brings genuine benefit to the Muslims, then I would prefer that side to prevail but without allegiance or active support. This resembles the early Muslims’ situation when Allah revealed in the Qur’an:

“The Byzantines have been defeated. In the nearest land. But they, after their defeat, will overcome. Within three to nine years. To Allah belongs the command before and after. And that day the believers will rejoice. With the help of Allah. He helps whom He wills, and He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful.”
(Surah Ar-Rum 30:2–5)

At that time, the Muslims were not fighting alongside the Byzantines, yet they rejoiced at their victory over the Persians, because the Byzantines, as People of the Book, were closer to the believers than the fire worshipping Persians. In the same way, today we do not side with either non-Muslim army, but we hope that whichever outcome brings less harm and more benefit to the Muslims will prevail.

If two Muslims were to fight on opposite sides in the Russia Ukraine war, the question arises: what are they really fighting for? Such a war is not under an Islamic banner, nor is it for the defense of Islam; rather, it is a political and territorial struggle between two non-Muslim states. In Islam, true jihad is either defensive to repel aggression against one’s religion, land, or community or offensive under a legitimate Muslim authority; neither applies here. At most, if a Muslim in Ukraine fights simply to defend his home and family from immediate harm, that act might be seen as self defense, but it is not jihad in the Sharia sense.

The Prophet ﷺ said:

“Whoever fights under a banner of blind partisanship (ʿimiyyah), getting angry for tribalism, or calling to tribalism, or supporting tribalism, and he is killed, then his death is a death of jahiliyyah.”
(Sahih Muslim, 1850)

The Prophet ﷺ said:

“If two Muslims meet with their swords, both the killer and the one killed are in the Hellfire.”
They asked: “O Messenger of Allah, this is the killer, but what about the one who was killed?”
He ﷺ replied: “He was eager to kill his companion.”
(Sahih Muslim, 2888)


Quran:

O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allāh guides not the wrongdoing people. [Al-Maidah:51]

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